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|Beyond the glaring
hypocrisy, the inequities in resource distribution and the social
injustices one observes in our state and society, a question
one has to ask oneself is whether one is part of the solution
or part of the problem ? In this vein, each person has to probe
one's own heart and mind. One subconscious intention behind
venting disgust can be healthy anxiety and a motivator to do
something. Another can be implicit escapism, contributing to
one's own apathy and that of others. I am glad, this is the
former, rather than the latter. GEO Pakistan....its about time!
Maimoona Noor - Peshawar-NWFP, Pakistan.
Founder & Chief Executive AWARD-All Women
Advancement & Resource Development.
Dear Geo Team
I want to congratulate Geo TV for initiating
on theHudood Ordinance, Zina-Bil-Raza and Zina-Bil-Jaber.
I have been saying things about Hudood Ordinance
at different forums as a CSO representative and a Human Rights
activist, which are of course a matter of common sense e.g.
in Zina-Bil_Jaber the need of four witness is totally
absurd. If four people are standing and watching the violence
they must be "BAGHARAT".
But on Geo TV to watch Ulma and intellectuals
saying, it will InshAllah make a difference and we will be able
to change the discriminatory Law that has ruined Islam’s image
and reputation….once again congratulations from the core of
Ahmad, Houston, Texas, United States
was it necessary to start with Hudood ordinance? Don't you think
that there are hundreds of other things dividing our society?
Like Feudal system, like Kalabagh Dam, and implementation of
Shariat?? Your programs are worse than Indian's program. It
is shame for a Pakistani channel to promote Indian culture.
You are, in fact, a "JEW" channel.
Malik, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
it was a bold step by GEO TV. I think topics like these should
come up in the future as well which change the view of masses.
So next time someone talks about such a topic, one does not
need to be scared. However, I would like GEO to follow the issue
through, and give us updates in their next talk show in regards
to the previous issue until it gets resolved. I'm no religious
leader, I will refuse to debate on any religious matter, but
I'm one of the people of Pakistan who has some common sense,
from what I see Hudood ORDINANCE and NOT HUDOOD ALLAH has room
for improvement. I hope to see many other Pakistani's sane minds
taking part in active forums such as this to express their views
and opinions and much thanks goes to GEO for achieving that.
A. Chughtai, Lahore, Pakistan
to the team behing zara sochiye. The debate was the first of
its kind in my life it was very informative and conclusive.
It showed the true picture from both sides. Our molvies and
muftis need to revise their concepts of Islam while synchronising
with scholars like Dr. Javed Ghamdi. I really appreciate and
foresee that zara sochiye will bring about some change in the
way people think about the problems they face. It is a highly
commendable effort. A lot of people in my social circle missed
that debate. CAN THEIR BE A RETELECAST??? PLEASE DO.
| Dear Geo,
I am finding hard to choose words to express my views on your
presentations on the issue of 'Hudood Oridinance'.
My initial reaction to the details and views about Hudood Ordinance,
reflected in the interviews, was of shock on my ignorance. UltimatelyI
am feeling deeply ashamed of being a Pakistani. It is awful
that we have taken over two decades to realize that 'Hudood
Ordinance' is unjust, inhumane and detrimental to the ideals
of Islam. The very fact
that the Ordinance equates 'Rapists and Adulterers' is an anonmaly
beyond explanation. Further the Ordinance fascilitates victamization
of women, protects the 'rapists' and there is no automatic penality
for falsely accusing a women.
As a Pakiatani I am extremely grateful to Geo for clearing the
mist which has been hiding the henious implications of the 'Hudood
Ordinance' for over two decades.
It is a shame that the nation of Quaid-e-Azam Mohammaed Ali
Jinnah,one of the most brilliant lawyers and constitutionalists
of all times,drafted and lived with a law that violates the
basic principles of justice in the name of Islam for so long.
Thankyou very much Geo.
Athar Syed -
Muslims today believe that Islam is such a complicated subject
that it can only be left to the so called Ulema to figure out.
Average Muslims feel that they are inherently unqualified to
participate in any religious debate. And yet Gods tells us in
Surah 54, Verses 17, 22, 32 and 40: “We made the Quran easy
to learn. Does any of you wish to learn?” I applaud GEO in undertaking
the effort to facilitate a public debate on this subject. I
hope this is the first of many such examinations of what we,
collectively as Muslims, practice and believe in. Most importantly
I hope it promotes a sense of personal responsibility amongst
all of us to learn and come to an understanding about our faith.
Omair, Karachi - Pakistan
just wish to quote the transalation of Surah Al-Noor, Ayat 6-9
'And for those who launch a charge against their spouses and
have (in support) no evidence but their own solitary evidence
(can be recieved) if they bear witness four time (with an oath)
by Allah that they are solemenly telling the truth. And the
fifth (oath should be) that they solemnly invoke the curse of
Allah on themselves if they tell a lie." But it would avert
punishment from the wife if she bears witness four times (with
an oath) by Allah that (her husband) is telling a lie. And the
fifth (oath) should be that she solemenly invokes the wrath
of Allah on herself in (her accuser) is telling the truth. If
in this case the testimony of woman is same as man then why
not in rape case?
Muhammad Asif -
know I was wrong. I thought GEO is impartial on all the debates
it organizes but now i realize in the Hudood ordinance debate
that GEO isn't impartial. GEO also has a hidden agenda based
on the animosity against Islam and its true values as a DEEN.
GEO also promotes the beliefs of those people who actually are
against the ordinance.
Bradford, United Kingdom
Work. A Daring Move. Just complete the work and take it to end.
M - London
done for launching this project, Geo. I’m particularly pleased
to have access to the text of the laws themselves on this micro
site, as well as to some of the translations of the Quranic
verses that these laws claim to draw upon. Although I’ve thought
and read about the Hudood Ordinances before, having access to
the text of the laws themselves reminded me of some points of
detail that trouble me, other than the obvious flaws we often
talk about. For example, I had forgotten that ‘adult’ men were
defined as males over the age of eighteen, whereas adult women
are defined as females over the age of sixteen, or females who
have attained the age of puberty. This means that we could have,
(and have had?) female children as young as eleven subject to
these laws. Where does this differentiated definition of adulthood
originate from? As your logo for Zara Sochiye suggests, the
scales are imbalanced at the moment. Let’s hope this forum prompts
a cross-section of thinking people to write in and discuss these
laws as a small step towards an overdue repeal.
Yasir Abbasi, Karachi, Pakistan
more than 25 years the common populace was lead to believe that
this ordinance was the word of Allah. If some one would have
openly opposed this law only 10 years ago he would have most
probably been labelled as a 'Kafir' and maybe killed by a mob
of fanatics. This just makes me think how many other "man-made"
laws we have been forced to believe has divine. The other question
I have is, how can Hudood laws or the laws of shariat be implemented
on non-muslims? I mean if someone doesn’t believe in these hudood
than how can you punish him for surpassing it! Ironic!!!!
Hasan, Karachi, Pakistan
Ordinance are laws made by people which can carry mistakes &
can be improved. So, we should study them & help in improving
them the laws are not the laws of Allah (Almighty).
Furqan, Karachi, Pakistan
is a good effort by Geo. However, please pay attention to build
a case. The section on history of the Hudood ordinance can give
more insight into the nature of this issue - it is very sketchy.
It is best to deal with such issues after more thorough homework.
Mustafa Shakir – Beijing, China
Assalamoalaikom I would like to say that the Hudood Ordinance
is in very close proximity to Quran and Hadith and Pakistan
being a country created in name of ISLAM should implement it
properly.The Hudood Ordinance is a step towards making the society
more pure so why not implement it properly rather than letting
it be maligned by the so called moderates of Pakistan.The need
of the hour in Pakistan is not to make more Laws but to implement
the laws properly as in our whole 60 years history no law has
been implemented hundred percent. Thanks
Qasim Usmani – Karachi, Pakistan
of all, I would congratulate GEO on such a wonderful job done.
The whole format, selection of experts, the presentation is
superb. I wish if I can see the actual question put to the experts
(word by word) that made them reply in the specific terms and
they could not escape in the jugglery of words. I liked the
comments of Maulana Ehtramul Haq Thanvi. I agree the architect
of Hudood Ordinance must be burning in hell and will burn for
ever. I would like to submit a few suggestions. A) Present few
real life case stories that have evolved as a result of blunders
of Hudood Ordinance. Tell us how people have been using Hudood
Ordinance for their own benefit. Please involve us. B) At the
end of any question put to the public (e.g. in Zara Sochiae
or GEO Poll etc) you invite people to reply through phone call,
email or letter. May I suggest you add the mobile sms option
in the list. Mobile sms is currently the most convenient and
handy option. One can immediately reply and submit his / her
opinion. I am sure you will get more submissions.
| IJAZ AHMAD - Lahore Cantt.,
and Zina Bil Jabar are two different topics. So if we read
Zina Bil Jabar within the ambit of Zina then it is against
the principles of Natural Justice. Only Zina falls within
the ambit of Hudood Laws. It is necessary that the second
one must be regulated through our common law i.e. Pakistan
Penal Code. In case of Zina Bil Jabar, it is not possible to produce four specified
witnesses. The victim after failing to fulfill the same, will
be accused of Qazaf. So she is a victim of Zina Bil Jabar
in the one hand and on the other she is also
accused of Qazaf. This is the deficiency of Hudood Laws. I
appreciate the Golden Thinking our Religious Groups who are
ready for removing the errors of the same. (IJAZ AHMAD) M.A(Political
Science), LL. B, Advocate, Lahore.
Ms Hadi –
Ordinance is not Islamic. Period. Repealing the hudood law is not about human rights, women rights
or even a fight for common sense. It’s about Islam's rights,
and Islam is about all
these things and more. Islam never intended the 4 witness
requirement for Zina/Adultery to be applied for Zina Bil Jabar
(rape). 4 witness concept was there to protect women, and
the innocent, it was almost a public indecency law and a warning,
that was not supposed to be so misused, let alone to be confused
with proving Zina Bil Jaber. Islamic scholars from across
Pakisan, through GEO, have finally spoken up unanimously through
this campaign, and the rest of the country is also getting
to see such discource for the first time. Pakisan should continue
this trend of discourse and debate, as it is surely a sign
of a maturing nation. Mashallah and may God guide us further.
Saman Urooj Ismail –
of all, I would applaud GEO for initiating the ‘Zara Sochiyay’
concept. I believe that a lot of viewers would be ‘forced
to think’ by the programme. As far as my opinion on the Hudood
Ordinance is concerned, I truly believe that the Ordinance
in itself is faulty and a lot of clauses in it should be amended.
This is what a number of human rights and women rights activists
have been campaigning for in the past. However, I have been
heartened to see that almost all the religious sects also
hold the same opinion. This has made me wonder as to why the
move for amending the Hudood Ordinance was not carried out
in the past, and also, who are the ones who DON’T want the Ordinance amended.
Hassan S Siddiqi – Middleton,
think Hudood laws are a curse to women in Pakistan. Hundreds
of women are not given justice through this ordinance and this
needs to be corrected. 4 witnesses for rape is not reasonable
at all, DNA evidence should be taken into consideration and a man
should be arrested as soon as a woman cries out rape. This is
fairness and Islam calls
Waqqas Tariq Chauhan –
as defined by Allah and conveyed by the Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H),
is beyond modification at any level. As far as the man-derived
ordinance or legislature is concerned, it is always a "draft", something which can never
attain any concrete stature, as who ever may be laying down
the particular ordinance will be doing so according to his own
interpretation of the Islamic Values
as defined by Allah in the Quran and the Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H)
through Hadeeth and Sunnah. Now if we look at the Hudood-Ordinance
from this point of view, we will clearly see that it is nothing
but a collection of man-defined clauses, a collection which
is totally modifiable and adjustable based on the current socio-cultural drift of society.
Mohammed Asif –
Ordinance" is one of the biggest institutionalized forms
of discrimination against women in Pakistan.
The very fact that it is in force in Pakistan (and may be two
or three more countries of the Islamic World who are being run
by stupid people like Zia) itself manifests that it was a whimsical
decision taken by a handful of religious zealots for curtailing women's social
mobility and that it has nothing to do with Islam. Hadood Ordinance
must be repealed at the earliest possible time. I, as citizen
stand strongly for its roll-back. Perhaps President General Pervaiz Musharraf's government can do the only good thing
over these past six years by doing so!!!
| Rabia Zia – Ghana
Geo, I have the following remarks about the current zara socchey
campaign about Hudood ordinance .Zara Socchey is supposed to
be a thought provoking unbaised initiative. It is however more
of a directed propaganda towards a desired purpose using the
name of independence .I have formed this opinion based on the
following : 1.The website for this issue is a black website
implying that it is a black law. 2.The balance shown is tilted towards one side which means it
is an unjust law 3.The advertisement for the zara sochhey showing
four women standing and not able to do anything for one woman
drawing is not it a clear reflective of the bais in the campaign
. We hold Geo in high esteem and would like it to be an independent
media not one into playing in the hands of a specific group.
Imran – Lahore, Pakistan
Sochiyee is one of the efforts by GEO which has helped the people
to talk on such issues which were banned. There is a great confusion
present in the society that "Hudood Allah "and "Hudood
Ordinance" are one and the same thing. I think that there
is great need to differentiate the two. Hudood Ordinance is
one which was formulated and promulgated by a military dictator
to prolong his illegitimate rule. No Muslim can even think or
comment about Hudood Allah but discussing man- made and man-interpreted
law is not a sin. I am a professional lawyer and come across
the sufferings of many women and children under this law. Over
90% Hudood cases ends up in acquittals by courts but the affectees suffer irreparable losses. I
think that these ordinances should be debated publicly and Parliament
should take appropriate measure to end the sufferings of the
victims of this law.
Khurshid – GOUVIEUX, France
society which cannot differentiate between adultery and rape
and requires 4 MALE witnesses for each act to be punished
has made a mockery of the Divine Guidance of the Holy Qur'an.
And to think, it has been subjecting its womenfolk to such
humiliation, pain and suffering in the name of the Law of
the “REHMAN UR RAHIM ". The hudood ordinance is a frank
molestation of Allah's Law and reprehensible. We had to wait
for so long to understand this simple reality? O religion!
Thy name is ignorance! Al -Maidah 5 : 48 5:48 To you (O Messenger)
We have sent THE BOOK in Sure Truth confirming the Divine
Origin of whatever Scripture was before it. The Qur’an is
the Watcher over the old Scriptures and guards the Truth in
them. So, JUDGE between people by that which Allah has revealed
to you and follow not their wishes away from the Truth that
has come to you. Now has come to all of you THE DIVINE LAW,
and A TRACED-OUT WAY. If Allah had willed, He could have made
all of you humans a single community. But, He decided to let
you choose your own path after showing you the Truth, and
thus test yourselves. Outdo one another in actions that serve
humanity and thus grow your “Self”. To Allah is your final
destination; of all of you. Then He will make you understand
where you differ. 5 : 49 5:49
Juneau, Alaska, USA
you for generating a debate on the Hadood Ordinance. Pakistani
Muslims must learn to debate, learn to hear differing opinion,
and learn to live with difference of opinions even on religious
Dervaish Lashkari –
existence of the Hudood Ordinance in Pakistan should be a
cause for constant sorrow and shame for all Pakistanis. Kudos, therefore, to GeoTV for taking on this
groundbreaking venture. For the record, please note that the
debate is only about the Zina Ordinance which mandates the
imprisonment of rape victims while allowing
the rapist to go scot free (the Hudood Ordinance has several other statutes). What is surprising though is that
there are no women being asked to weigh in on the subject.
Does their opinion not matter (Muslim women's testimony being
worth only half
that of Muslim men!) or are there just no women in
with the courage and/or wherewithal to present their point
of view? The enactment of the Hudood Ordinance was one of
the most tragic events in Pakistan's history, an event eclipsed
in enormity only by the 2nd Amendment to the Pakistani constitution
in Zulfiqar Bhutto's time through which Ahmedis/Qadianis were
rendered second-class citizens -- earning in turn for Pakistan
the dubious distinction of being one of the very few countries
in the world whose very constitution singles out a religious
minority for discriminatory treatment. The problem with laws
like the Hudood Ordinance is that once enacted they are virtually impossible to repeal
-- such being the vagaries of trying to live by divine laws.
It is then perhaps to Musharraf's credit that at least the
milieu necessary for the intelligent re-appraisal of these
monstrosities is gradually being created.
Muhammad Imran –
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Sir/Madam, I dont have much knowledge about "Hudood"
but I know the fact that if we claim that we are Muslims even
bad Muslims, we never got right to find new laws other than
those described in Quran and explained by Hadith. Simply,
if we are looking for some different life style to live with,
we should have enough courage to announce that we don’t want
to abide by our religion Islam. Because manmade laws of life,
we cannot title as islamic laws! More over Dear, if you are
really trying to do some thing good for Pakistani people, arrange
debates and polls over real issues: for example, if there should be Audit for Armed
forces ( True islamic laws say that Accountability should
start from the Leaders even it should be harder for the leaders
than common man). For example, the corrupt politicians, corrupt
corrupt Bureaucrats, how they should be expelled from the
society and how they should be punished? If you have clear
hearts, like what should be done with Feudal lords, sucking
the blood of innocent Pakistani people and still holding huge
lands, which their forefathers were granted by Britishers
as a reward of Loyalty to their masters? Do arrange Debates
and Polls for the issues like if Alcohol or Wines trade should
be allowed in Islamic country and if Armed forces high officials should be allowed to take Alcohols and Wines at their parties or
not? if you want to do really some thing for Pakistani people, arrange Debates and Polls
over real issues, but if you want to please some one else, rather than Allah, do
what ever you are doing! But remember, even if you don’t believe,
every one is answerable to Allah on the judgment day for one's
deed! Even if you Don’t believe it!
Upal – Toledo, USA
I'm certainly happy someone has the courage to touch the issue
but the program you are producing is clearly imbalanced and not a very good piece of journalism.
It only presents one side of the issue and leaves the viewers
like me wondering as to where the heck have all these influential
(scholars and opinion leaders, who seem so convinced of the
injustice of it all) been for the last two decades! You need
to present the view of the people who crafted the law and
who support it to make the viewers understand how we ended
up where we are. However, as I said, I'm happy someone has
the guts to at least talk about the issue. Kudos to GEO. And
I guess a piece of one sided propaganda may be what is needed
at this point to stir up the pot and shake things up. I hope
you succeed in your mission.
Nadia Sahar –
Hudood ordinance is Islamic! The problem is with the implementation!
Anis Ahmed Qureshi –
& Zina bil jabr are two different words & have different
meanings no doubt about it. If any person even scholer said
or exist in zina ordinence its regretted. Islam is a complete
religion. It is a very kind religion. So how its possible
for a girl or women how is raped to produce 4 adult person
as witness? Kindly invite scholars from abroad, from other
Muslim countries for their views. Thanks you GEO
Babar Bashir –
just came to know about this very interesting program and the
main thing is the beginning of a dialogue process for this sensitive
issue. I really pray and hope that we as a nation will be able to discuss these things
openly and able to find a proper way of resolving such issues
without blaming anyone. We are all part of the society, representing our religion and we are
obliged to deliver positive results. Its not the matter of respect
for women only. It is the matter related to our mothers, sisters
and wives. So, our main focus must be on JUSTICE. I've personally
experienced that a majority of these programs instead of clearing
thoughts of general public ends up in creating chaos and confusion.
I really hope that those who started such an important program are
going to put their best efforts to clear issues.
Ahmed Shahab –
It is interesting that Geo TV is running an Ad stating "No
Debate on Hudood Allah". Does that mean that now we can
finally debate the Constitution of Pakistan. Is the Constitution
of Pakistan based on Quran and Sunnah? If Geo TV thinks they
have courage to talk
about Hudood Allah, then i would like them to run Ad on TV on
stating how the Constitution of Pakistan violates the Quran
and Sunnah, and the Hudood of Allah swt. The whole idea of such
campaign is to remove law making based on the Quran and Sunnah.
If Geo is sincere in implementing Quran and Sunnah and hudood
of Allah swt, they should have been running campaigns to identify
all the Laws in the Constitution of Pakistan that violates
the Laws of Allah. At the end of day the Constitution of Pakistan
is a man made law.
MUNAWAR ALI –
great respect I invite your attention to the off repeated
words of the Hudood Ordinance. Zina bil raza and zina bil
jabr both are repugnant words. The very word of zina is repulsive
and disgusting especially when children are watching TV. Parents
feel embarrassed. I do not think it is a hot topic for the
present. We are ignoring other important issues . The Hudood
Ordinance is a diabloic creation of some diseased mind. It
is against humanity and culture and it must be repelled forthwith.
would like to congratulate GEO on a very bold step where they
have fulfilled on objective of running a TV channel - to inform.
The currrent campaign on Hudood was an eye opener for someone
like me who has not had a lot interaction with the religion
and law to be able to understand the effect of such a law on
the society. What I do know now is the kind of havoc such a
law can create in a society as uneducated as ours. I just hope
the government can do something about such a draconian law and
(Junoon), NY, USA
friends, there is a moment in time when wrong begs to be righted.
The hudood (law of moral parameters) ordinance was introduced
during the dark ages of general Zia Ul Haq who used it as a
tool to punish dissent, bully minorities and to mollify the
maulanas. Countless innocent women (and men) have had their
lives and reputations destroyed by zealots who have used this
law to distract from their own own corrupt agendas and covert
practices. Having been introduced in the name of preserving
the sanctity of islam this law in fact has violated the true
spirit of islamic justice by using rumour, innuendo and hearsay
as evidence against it's victims. The hudood ordinance is a
dark remnant of the zia era and needs to be repealed immediately.
I'm inspired by geo who has taken the bold step of opening a
public debate on the true nature of the hudood law. We need
to collectively mount moral and legal pressure on the govt.
To have this unjust law repealed
saw the full page ad in Jang and I had was totally shocked by
reading such open and positive comments by so many Islamic scholars!
I had no idea that we had so many scholars and that all of them
believed in such an open way about the difference between the
Hadood Allah and the Hadood Ordinance. Having Taqi Usmani and
Muneeb ur Rahman as well as the head of Islamic Ideology Council
was particularly a coup. They are all respected people, and
now they will be even more respected by coming out openly about
the topic. I wish them and all those who have encouraged the
rest of us to Œ¹think¹¹ luck and prayers
with their intentions.
|It is refreshing
to see the Hudood Ordinance approached as a topic without including
politics in the matter. It is also wonderful to see that with
a topic, which has divided the nation for so many years, there
does seem to be some consensus amongst the religious leaders
who have supported it in the past. The consensus openly admits
that the Hudood Ordinance is man made and there is nothing divine
about it. Everyone seems to agree it needs to be re-evaluated
and made more effective and just. Let¹s hope that process starts
Usman, United Kingdom
is giving both Islam and Pakistan a bad name. This law goes
against common sense and should be repealed immediately..
| Can we call Hudood Ordinance a complete sub
set of Islamic Jurisprudence, yet to be deciphered? However,
it is refreshing to know that we are at least looking into the
matter. I commend GEO on this initiative. Here is my request
to the knowledgeable members of the society: Please see to it
that Islam is not hold hostage by a certain sect or ideologyŠ
What needs to be ascertained is, should this be the way forward?
I think we can do better than this
|Syed Qamarul Islam, Rawalpindi, Pakistan
|Actually, the real enemy of Pakistan is not
India or any other state, It is only the army generals, who
never hesitate in destroying any thing what so ever, either
the nation¹s moral or social character. Hudood Ordinance was
introduced by Gen Zia to malign Islam¹s perception of justice.
My thought is that any ordinance made by Army Generals should
|Imran Khan, Faisalabad, Pakistan
|While I believe that the only 100% effective
and progressive way to make the hudood ordinance better is to
repeal it altogether, at least we have taken a step in the right
direction by looking into the matter. Thank you GEO for providing
a forum for this initiative to take place.
|Iqbal A Yousuf, Karachi, Pakistan
|Zaheer Khan, Pehshawar
|GEO¹s campaign is one sided, and Hadood Ordinance
has been maligned because of a foreign handed agenda that channels
like GEO and some NGO backed Alims are following. Though repeal
has not been shown to be the agenda, and its mentioned on your
website, it will not be long before when that move is made and
GEO will surely support it. I urge you not to make that mistake,
as God¹s laws should not be touched.
|Bashir Sheikh, Multan
|This debate is not fit for TV. TV is a dumb
medium as it is, and 30 min or an hour that format programs
have been giving to this issue as well as the people who are
coming to host such programs are not fit, actually is spreading
more confusion among the masses. Leave the masses out of this.
The intentions might be to show how liberal Islam is but people
will take advantage of that and there will be no going back.
We must be more responsible. I hope you will put this comment
|Amna Babar, Kuwait
|I don¹t understand why women are left out of
this campaign? And where are the judges and human rights lawyers?
Has Geo avoided them on purpose? Intentions might be pure, but
you will only encourage the Maulvi more, and expand and protect
what he thinks is his domain. Islam can not be hostage to them,
let the minorities have their say and don¹t give more legitimacy
to them than they already think they have. Islam doesn¹t need
no priest and middle man, everyone can have a direct relationship
to GOD. Everyone.
|Jamal Shah, Toronto, Canada
|I think the major cause of problems in Muslim
world is that they are not accommodating new changes which is
happening around them and rejecting them in the name of Islam.
The usually follow the approach what Prophet has done. I would
rather seek what Prophet would have done if he would be living
with us today?
|Nasir Raza Lodhi, Canada
|We have to discuss all these kind of issue
with open mind. With consultation of all religious scholar.
we should amend these Law in true spirit of islam
|ASAD KIZILBASH, ILLINOIS, USA
|Zia's Hudood Ordinance is not only defective
but its consequences have been totally disastrous and unjust
and must be quicly made part of the dust bin of our history.
We must never forget that Islam primarily teaches justice above
all. This debate only matters if we disregard the history of
our country's creation, and our Quaid's aspirations, and follow
the path of the parties and leaders who had nothing to do with
the creation of our great nation, but were historically its
foes, and like the Hypocrites mentioned in the Holy Quran, decided
not only to eat its fruits but to mislead us as well.
|AHMED LAHORE, PAKISTAN
|It's about time this debate took
place with full force. Hudood Ordinance needs to go. There should
be no room for such oppressive laws in our society
|SHAZIA MOHAMMED, TORONTO,
|Congratulations on tackling such
a controversial issue with an objective style and democratic
attitude. One thing though -There were no women represented
on the Hudood panel? If we are vying for democracy, voices of
women, religious minorities etc need to be included in the debate
- diversity in voice, opinion etc is essential.
khalid khan, Karachi, Pakistan
|YOUR SITE IS REALLY COOL ESPECIALLY
ABOUT THE HUDOOD ORDIANCE. IT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE GOVERNMENT
BY YOUR STRUGGLE CONGRATS. KEEP IT UP
|Zahid Raja, Toronto, Canada
|The process of thinking in the
Muslim nation was never under any circumstances banned. The
real problem in our country is not that we do not think but
if we have something to implement, then we have the same forces
who are running our judiciary, our education and other systems
to deal with which are corrupt.We need to think how to get rid
of them before thinking how to reform our systemsNaveed.We need
action not words.
|I just hope that government wouldn't
exploit your sincere efforts... What about your next compaign????????
Or this is the end??
|Jawad Mazhar, tauranga
city, New Zealand
|Well done Geo. It is a great effort.
I hope geo continues to discuss such issues in the future as
well. I didn’t know about this issue till I read it on
geo website. It is sad that it took us 27 years to just talk
about it. I wonder how long it would take us to actually change
it in real life. It also makes me realise that Islam is a wonderful
religion. We are not bold enough to fight the false norms in
our culture. I hope Geo takes up other issues as well. Unfortunately
our parliament is full of illiterate, selfish and corrupt politicians.
They are not concerned with the welfare of the people. They
don't have the intention or the wisdom to talk about such issues.
Please discuss other issues as well, maybe we can solve them
in a similar way. Maybe Geo will be able to bring out a wider
public awareness and get closer to the truth in other matters
|Assalam o allkum. My dear Brothers
I just want to say Hudood Ordinance is basically not a major
issue. The major issue is our law enforcement agencies as they
are not playing their role in a better way. I think it would
be better to correct them first. As far as Hudood Ordinance
is concerned, it is a purely a Islamic issue. Don't interprate
it as a political issue. Khurram
|Nasir Mehmood, Abha, Saudi
|I watch GEO channel on daily basis.
I appreciate the endeavour the channel is taking to reform the
society, particularly the debate about Hudood Ordinance. I personally
think the ordinance was passed by General Zia to divert the
people's attention from his illegal regime which unfortunately
lasted for 11 years. During his rule he gave false hope to people
that he would establish Islamic System in the country. The people
of Pakistan had been waiting for the system but it was never
brought. On the other hand our society suffered a lot from such
evils as drug mafia and Kalashnikov culture because of our unrelenting
support for the so called Jihad-e-Afghanistan. Hudood Bill was
also the part of that strategy to consolidate Zia's ILLEGAL
government. Thousands of women suffered from this bill of indiscrimination
since it has been passed. I think it is high time to get rid
of this unjust bill which was not passed by a democratic parliament.
|Musharraf Ahmad, Multan,
|On starting this programme you
promote that you will discuss all topics regarding controversial
issues for public interest. But you close this after HADOOD
And ZINA. May we think like all other people that it was only
for American lobby's signal? Have you achieved the goal of Pakistan's
enemies? I am not against your view against HUDOOD ORDINANCE.
It was a great effort to show actual figures to the people of
Pakistan but the delay in other issues urges the people to think
like that. Important topics related to Islamic sects should
also be resolved in order to create unity. Please discuss about
'one way of NAMAZ', the best and common technique to give ZAKAT
Interference of Govt. in religious matter and whether the privatization
policy is against the Economic ideology of Islam? Please ZARA
|Ayaz Aslam, Islamabad,
|The debate on the issue is not
a rational one, and understandably so, because both parties
are fighting within the realm of Islam. Both believe that other's
interpretation of Quran and Sunnah is incorrect. The rationalist
approach to this ordinance should be that if it is against existing
human rights, it should be discarded. The debate should not
be on who has got the wrong interpretation of Islam, rather,
it should focus on whether the ordinance conforms with the existing
human rights or not.thers and Sisters MH
|Shahnawaz patel, karachi,
|I must say that Geo have done
a big thing but it is just a one issue and Geo should start
an awareness program on some other issue, for example, how one
person can bring change ?
|Nadeem Ahmed, canton,
MI, United States
|Let me congratulate GEO on setting
an example about how to listen to each other to resolve difference
of opinions. This kind of dialogue is not very common in our
society, particularly if the issue is revolving around a religious
matter. A certain group of people, the so-called "Ulmas"
don't want to give somebody a chance to present their case.
I think that there is and will be lot of criticism about this
effort from that certain group. Please don't be discouraged.
I hope this will become a norm in our social and religious groups
towards peacefully settling disputes.
|Saima wakeel, punjab,
|With great respect I invite your
attention to the off repeated words of the Hudood Ordinance.
Zina bil raza and zina bil jabr both are repugnant words. The
very word of zina is repulsive and disgusting especially when
children are watching TV. Parents feel embarrassed. I do not
think it is a hot topic for the present. We are ignoring other
important issues .
you for Thinking!